Change Order Podcast

Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business...

AI is changing what it means to be good at your job.Dan Shipper, co-founder and CEO of Every, shares how he went from productivity writer to leading an AI-native company running six apps with a lean team, without being a full-time engineer.In this episode with Jason Shuman, Dan gets into:- how shipping work now looks more like directing - systems than writing code- why managing AI feels like...

When’s the last time you had a good customer experience?Alex Levin, Co-founder and CEO of Regal AI, is building AI Phone Agents that handle millions of customer calls for a small fraction of the cost, and drive higher customer satisfaction. In this episode with Jason Shuman, Levin gets into:• why companies moved away from phone calls despite customer demand.• how legacy vendors decided voice...

What if the future of law isn’t about replacing lawyers, but supercharging them?Ryan Daniels, Co-founder and CEO of Crosby, is building the world’s first AI-powered law firm that blends human judgment with machine speed to handle contracts in hours, not days.In this episode with Jason Shuman, he discusses:• why the $1T legal industry is finally ready for automation.• how Crosby became an AI-first...

The pace of innovation has never been faster or harder to follow.Mario Gabriele, founder of The Generalist, a newsletter and community helping over 150K readers make sense of what matters in tech, AI, and venture, joins Jason Shuman to share how deep research and storytelling help him decode the forces shaping what’s next.They get into:• the mental models behind The Generalist’s most-read...

With emergency response times under three minutes, the future of public safety is airborne.Rahul Sidhu, co-founder and CEO of Aerodome, joins Jason Shuman on Change Order to share how he and his team are deploying drones as ‘first responders’, combining automation and aviation to transform how cities handle critical events.Together, they explore:• how a pandemic-induced staffing crisis gave rise...

What if AI’s most transformative impact starts where we least expect it, in a classroom?Adeel Khan, former principal and CEO of MagicSchool, turned this insight into an AI platform helping over 6 million educators reduce burnout and elevate teaching.On Change Order, with Jason Shuman, he shares:• the role of teachers in guiding AI to personalize learning for each student.• how MagicSchool became...

What if government spending was as searchable as the web?Justin Wenig, founder & CEO of Starbridge, joins Jason to unpack how his team uses AI and FOIA at scale to make public spending transparent and actionable for both vendors and agencies.In this episode of Change Order, they get into:• how FOIA becomes a go-to-market superpower (and how to operationalize it)• building the largest...

First-party fraud costs businesses over $100 billion a year, often because finance teams rely on outdated systems.Enter Casap, an AI-driven platform that reduces fraud losses and simplifies dispute resolution.On Change Order, Shanthi Shanmugam, CEO and co-founder, shares how her experience in product and customer care at Robinhood inspired the creation of Casap.She also discusses with Jason...

From sleeping in auto shops to raising $33M.Adi Bathla’s founder story is one of grit, timing, and a relentless pursuit of repeatability. Now, as CEO of Revv, he’s digitizing one of the most offline industries in America.He joins Jason Shuman to share:• the moment he knew Revv had product-market fit• why burning the boats was the only way forward• lessons from jet.com, Misfits Market, and Walmart...