406: Igra Labs Is Making DeFi Front-Run Resistant and Agent-Ready with Guest Speaker Pavel Emdin

 EPISODE DESCRIPTION 

I sat down with Pasha from Igra Labs in Berlin to dig into one of the most contrarian bets in Web3 right now , EVM on proof of work. Pasha walks me through why he left the Ethereum ecosystem, what drew him to Kaspa's BlockDAG architecture, and why he believes proof of work offers something proof of stake simply cannot: real fairness. We get into MEV resilience, censorship resistance, and why 10 blocks per second with no centralized sequencer changes everything for DeFi builders. We also cover Multitude, their brand new sovereign execution zones product, and why AI agents might finally be the user experience layer that makes Web3 click for everyone. If you're a founder, a builder, or just someone curious about where the next wave of adoption is coming from, this one is packed. 

 CONNECT 

Igra Labs Website: https://igralabs.com/hero

Deploy your sovereign finance chain infrastructure https://igralabs.com/multitude

Igra Labs Twitter/X: https://x.com/Igra_Labs

Pavel LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emdin/

Web3 with Sam Kamani Podcast: https://www.web3pod.xyz/

 KEY POINTS WITH TIMESTAMPS 

• [00:30] Introduction to Pasha from Igra Labs and what the episode covers

• [01:51] Pasha's backstory , from Delivery Hero and Auto One to falling into crypto in 2017

• [03:24] The core problem Igra Labs is solving: bringing EVM to proof of work via the Kaspa BlockDAG

• [05:53] Why proof of work still makes sense , decentralization, security, and hardware commitment

• [07:47] MEV resilience and front-run resistance as the killer property of EVM on proof of work

• [09:44] Real use cases: stablecoins, DeFi, RWAs, and AI agentic settlement on Igra

• [12:39] How EVM makes it easy for developers , Solidity tooling, SDKs, and AI coding agents

• [14:26] Developer onboarding in minutes using a single GitBook link and an AI agent

• [16:26] Introducing Multitude , sovereign execution zones allowing teams to launch their own Igra

• [18:52] How Multitude differs from parachains, appchains, and L2 models like OpStack

• [21:25] Where Web3 goes next , AI agents as the UX layer that finally unlocks mass adoption

• [24:48] An agentic marketplace being built on Igra , like Upwork, but for AI agents

• [27:02] What Pasha would do differently if starting Igra Labs today

• [27:52] Current asks: design partners for Multitude, a small strategic round, and ambitious builders

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