S1E4 - More K-Pop with Rob Cunningham
28 November 2025

S1E4 - More K-Pop with Rob Cunningham

Untangling Ourselves

About

Show Notes Ep 4: More K-Pop with Rob Cunningham


How does an experimental music aficionado become a K-pop fan? Always on the search for mind-blowing sound (see part one of his story in Epiosde 3), Rob reoriented to fun and living in the present during the pandemic. This led him to K-pop and its spectacular, dramatic audiovisual abundance. We talk about K-pop’s relationship to 80s music, Rob's favorite bands, originality, whiteness, politics, and joy as a compass.


You can find playlists and reviews at his blog: https://theaquamarinelayer.blogspot.com/


Or on mastadon at: @toblaveistobluff@kind.social


--


1:54 Pandemic reset


5:10 Intro to K-pop via homeschool conference


9:53 Twice


19:48 Diving into the deep end


24:05 Connection to past music genres


28:34 Functional versus spectacle aesthetics


33:26 Girls Generation “The Boys” as a quantum leap


38:32 Fandoms and politics


47:54 K-Pop Dreaming podcast


53:32 Joy as a compass


--


Key links


K-pop homeschool: https://www.instagram.com/kpophomeschool/


Twice “Jelly Jelly”: https://youtu.be/WuLQ5iV3Q64


Dreamcatcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QD0FeZyDtQ


Red Velvet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBnGBb1wg98


Girls Generation “I got a boy”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7ftOZBy0E


About “I got a boy”: https://web.archive.org/web/20230120020946/https://www.mtv.com/news/nol58l/girls-generation-i-got-a-boy-new-retro


K-Pop Dreaming Podcast: https://laist.com/podcasts/california-love


Maid: https://www.netflix.com/title/81166770


--


More links


Homeschool conference: https://www.hsc.org/


YP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JYP_Entertainment


Itzy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndvqTc4P9I


Black pink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S24-y0Ij3Y


Ministry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2MH5c2sTvc


Guy Debord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectacle_(critical_theory)


Girls Generation “The Boys”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pA_Tou-DPI


Exo “Mama”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6ZwnqZ7Wo


Loona https://youtu.be/zW-AIXAnLcE


NewJeans https://youtu.be/js1CtxSY38I


On BTS “Not Today”: https://muish.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/bts-baepsae-english-translation-ramblings/


Politics: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/arts/music/k-pop-fans-trump-politics.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4E8.mhXf.l7jYUvwCUm-q\&smid=url-share


“Flawless”: https://www.npr.org/2023/05/22/1177477181/beauty-culture-in-south-korea-reveals-a-grim-future-in-flawless


K-pop and feminism: https://web.archive.org/web/20211213160637/https://catapult.co/stories/dear-irene-im-still-learning-how-to-be-a-feminist-too-k-pop-fan-giaae-kwon


This podcast is powered by Pinecast.