Can a redesign save Apple's software?
30 May 2025

Can a redesign save Apple's software?

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It's a slowish news week ahead of some very busy news weeks, so of course Nilay and David start the show with a long discussion about party speakers. Eventually, they get into the news, beginning with some of the huge Apple redesigns planned for WWDC in June. For the first time in a long time, the stakes for Apple's software teams feel really high. After that, the hosts talk about Nilay's recent interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, and what the AI-ification of everything means for the future of the web. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some talk about the Nintendo Switch 2, a bit of confusing tariff news, and more.

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So so many softball and baseball games, Luis tips us to the Yankees

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Apple is ready to replace Game Center with a more Xbox-like gaming app 

Get ready for Apple’s glassy operating systems overhaul.

Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry

The New York Times’ first generative AI deal is with Amazon

The Browser Company explains why it stopped developing Arc

The plan for nationwide fiber internet might be upended for Starlink

FCC Commissioner Labels Trump Push to Chill Speech an ‘Administration-Wide Effort’

Carr's attack on Ergen looks gross

Shut Down the Federal Communications Commission

With the Switch, technology finally caught up to Nintendo 

Nintendo’s bold new era is full of safe bets 

The Nintendo Switch was an indie game haven, until it was overrun with slop 

The Nintendo Switch 2 sure seems to work just fine with a USB mouse 

There’s a Switch 2 unboxing video already.



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