Episode: Why Freedom Failed in Syria
Pub date: 2026-04-02
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In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks to journalist and author Anand Gopal about his wonderful new book Days of Love and Rage, a profoundly moving and intellectually stimulating history of the Syrian revolution told from the perspective of the northern town of Manbij.
Anand and Thomas discuss:
Anand's first-hand witnessing of 9/11
How Anand embedded with the Taliban
Revolution as a crisis of faith and collapse of social reality
Manbij as a microcosm of the tensions of Syrian modernity
The failure of Manbij's democratic experiment and the limits of liberalism
How ISIS exploited both material grievances and liberal norms
Baathism: egalitarian ethos vs authoritarian reality
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