Being Short Your Government: The Real Case for Gold & Silver

Wilf is joined by Ned Naylor-Leyland, newly crowned Investment Week Precious Metals Fund Manager of the Year and manager of the nearly $3 billion Jupiter Gold & Silver Fund. Known for his characteristically contrarian, deeply analytical perspective, Ned breaks down why the true narrative surrounding gold and silver is heavily misunderstood by the investing public. 

Instead of viewing gold and silver through the lens of traditional commodities, Ned explains why they are fundamentally foreign exchange instruments and why gold is the true risk-free asset of the global financial system. 

“This is about being short the behaviour of your government.” Ned makes the case for physical gold as the ultimate safeguard against the long-term erosion of purchasing power caused by the inevitable debasement of paper currencies. But he disagrees with many fellow gold bulls when explaining the surge in price in 2025, and thinks that momentum and macro trend-following from leveraged investors, as well as changing real interest rate expectations, fueled the recent explosive rally, rather than central bank buying or a broader acceptance of the monetary debasement argument by most investors.

He explains why silver operates as a "dual-nature" asset – acting as money while simultaneously being in critically short supply for the industries of the future from AI to  green-tech to military hardware. “Silver is like gold in that you are short politicians, but you're also long the future.” But Ned has exposure to just gold and silver, and explains why other precious or industrial metals have no place in his fund. 

While he has personally owned Bitcoin himself historically, he doesn’t own it anymore as he likes to be a first mover and contrarian and sees no place for $BTC in light of that.

He believes gold and silver producers are cheaper than they’ve ever been, with free cash flow margins that are double or triple that of the tech sector, while trading on a fraction of the multiple. The reason being the lack of long-only institutional capital in the space, which he thinks could flood in if tech stocks peak.

Ned and Wilf also discuss a wildcard factor – ‘Where Is the Gold?’ – a fascinating deep dive into fractional reserve bullion banking, central bank balance sheet expansions, and the systemic risks surrounding where physical gold actually resides.

0:00 Intro 

3:05 Long term case for gold 

6:14 Long term case for silver 

7:06 Why no other metals? 

9:54 What drove 2025 surge in gold & silver 

13:06 Did Gold peak in January? 

15:20 Is debasement priced in? 

17:15 Central banks are NOT independent 

22:00 Gold not risk-on or risk-off – its risk-free 

23:15 Gold vs Bitcoin 

27:14 Physical commodity + producers + development assets 

29:52 Miners cheaper than ever 

33:10 Portfolio construction 

34:56 Gold & Silver not normal commodities 

37:25 Where Is The Gold? 

42:26 Physical gold vs his fund? 

43:40 Revaluation of US gold reserves? 

50:13 Why buy gold & silver NOW? 

51:47 Could governments behave? 

54:37 Conclusion 

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