Trust, Communication, Safety, Deceit, and predicting behavior with Robin Dreeke (Former FBI) [Episode 163]

In this episode of The Intentional Clinician Podcast Paul Krauss, MA LPC, sits down with former FBI Special Agent and behavioral expert Robin Dreeke to explore how trust, communication, safety, and deceit show up in everyday relationships and high‑stakes situations. Drawing from his years leading the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, Robin shares practical frameworks for predicting behavior and assessing trustworthiness, while Paul connects these insights to clinical work, trauma, and real-world relational dynamics, including key ideas from Robin's book Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agent's User Manual for Behavior Prediction.

Robin Dreeke is a human behavior expert, author, speaker, and retired FBI Special Agent who spent over two decades in federal service, including as Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, where he specialized in building trust and recruiting spies through advanced rapport and communication techniques. He is the author of Sizing People Up, which outlines a practical system for evaluating trustworthiness and forecasting how others are likely to act using six core behavioral indicators, and now teaches organizations and individuals worldwide how to build authentic connections, assess risk, and navigate complex interpersonal situations.

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Paul Krauss MA LPC is a Cofounder of Health for Life Counseling Grand Rapids, home of The Trauma-Informed Counseling Center of Grand Rapids. Paul is also a Private Practice Psychotherapist, an Approved EMDRIA Consultant , host of the Intentional Clinician podcast, Behavioral Health Consultant, Clinical Trainer, Counseling Supervisor, and Meditation Teacher. Paul is now offering consulting for a few individuals and organizations. Paul is the creator of the National Violence Prevention Hotline as well as the Intentional Clinician Training Program for Counselors. Paul has been quoted in the Washington Post, NBC News, Wired Magazine, and Counseling Today. Questions? Call the office at 616-200-4433. 

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Original Music:

”Alright” from the album Mystic by PAWL (Spotify)

”All that we Perceive” from the album The Richest Man in Babylon by Thievery Corporation (Spotify)

”Sky Blue Sky” from the album Sky Blue Sky by Wilco (Spotify)