Episode 8 Season 7: Intentional Restoration, Community Reciprocity, and Being a “Positive Deviant”

In this powerful season finale, Kirsten and Matt welcome back recurring guests Dr. Jen Clifden and Dr. Nuhu Sims for a timely and soul-stirring conversation about surviving and thriving as educators in today’s turbulent K–12 environment. Together, they explore the need for intentional restoration, community reciprocity, and the boldness of being a “positive deviant.”

References mentioned:

We Want to Do More Than Survive – Bettina Love

Fugitive Pedagogy – Dr. Jarvis Givens (inspired by Carter G. Woodson)

Emergent Strategy – adrienne maree brown

Troublemaker – Karla Cornejo Villavicencio




Connect with our guests-

Dr. Jen Clifden
🌐 www.drjenclifden.com
📘 The Light You Cast


Dr. Nuhu Sims (connect through Dr. Jen Clifden)




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