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Why do disagreements spiral into conflict — even when both people think they’re being reasonable?
AJ and Johnny sit down with psychologist Julia to break down the biggest mistake we make in conflict: assuming we understand the other person. From “naive realism” to the limits of perspective-taking, this episode reveals why most arguments become two people trying to correct each other instead of actually listening.
You’ll learn a more effective approach: using language to show real understanding, ask better questions, and stay engaged — even when you strongly disagree.
Chapters
00:00 – Why we misunderstand disagreement07:00 – The trap of “I’m right, you’re wrong”15:00 – Why perspective-taking fails22:00 – Listening with your mouth30:00 – The HERE framework for better conflict42:00 – Why facts don’t win arguments
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disagreement, conflict resolution, communication skills, listening skills, perspective taking, social psychology, emotional intelligence, difficult conversations, receptiveness, argument dynamics, relationship communication, understanding others
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AJ and Johnny sit down with psychologist Julia to break down the biggest mistake we make in conflict: assuming we understand the other person. From “naive realism” to the limits of perspective-taking, this episode reveals why most arguments become two people trying to correct each other instead of actually listening.
You’ll learn a more effective approach: using language to show real understanding, ask better questions, and stay engaged — even when you strongly disagree.
Chapters
00:00 – Why we misunderstand disagreement07:00 – The trap of “I’m right, you’re wrong”15:00 – Why perspective-taking fails22:00 – Listening with your mouth30:00 – The HERE framework for better conflict42:00 – Why facts don’t win arguments
A Word From Our Sponsors
Stop being over looked and unlock your X-Factor today at unlockyourxfactor.com
The very qualities that make you exceptional in your field are working against you socially. Visit the artofcharm.com/intel for a social intelligence assessment and discover exactly what's holding you back.
If you’ve put off organizing your finances, Monarch is for you. Use code CHARM at monarch.com in your browser for half off your first year.
Indulge in affordable luxury with Quince. Upgrade your wardrobe today at quince.com/charm for free shipping and hassle-free returns.
Grow your way - with Headway! Get started at makeheadway.com/CHARM and use my code CHARM for 25% off.
This year, skip breaking a sweat AND breaking the bank. Get your summer savings and shop premium wireless plans at mintmobile.com/charm
Curious about your influence level?
Get your Influence Index Score today!
Take this 60-second quiz to find out how your influence stacks up against top performers at theartofcharm.com/influence.
Episode resources:
DisagreeingBetter.com
Check in with AJ and Johnny!
AJ on LinkedIn
Johnny on LinkedIn
AJ on Instagram
Johnny on Instagram
The Art of Charm on Instagram
The Art of Charm on YouTube
The Art of Charm on TikTok
disagreement, conflict resolution, communication skills, listening skills, perspective taking, social psychology, emotional intelligence, difficult conversations, receptiveness, argument dynamics, relationship communication, understanding others
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