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Trump's Reflecting Pool. Minnesota's Supreme Court. The Pool Industry Just Got Interesting.
10 July 2026

Trump's Reflecting Pool. Minnesota's Supreme Court. The Pool Industry Just Got Interesting.

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This week on the Talking Pools Podcast, Rudy breaks down two major stories making waves across the pool industry.

First, a new case before the Minnesota Supreme Court could redefine what happens when homeowners rent out their backyard swimming pools through apps like Swimpley. If a residential pool becomes a commercial business, should it be regulated like a public pool? Rudy explores what that could mean for homeowners, service companies, builders, health departments, insurance carriers, and pool professionals across the country.

Then, the episode shifts to the continuing investigation surrounding the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. Following the Independence Day celebrations, crews drained the basin to begin inspecting the widely discussed coating failure. Rudy separates documented facts from speculation and explains why engineering investigations require evidence—not opinions.

Drawing on more than three decades of troubleshooting complex pool failures, Rudy examines the publicly available documentation, discusses coating systems, adhesion failures, ASTM testing standards, moisture considerations, recoat windows, and why forensic analysis—not politics—will ultimately determine what happened.

If you're tired of hot takes and looking for a technical, evidence-based discussion, this episode delivers exactly that.

In This Episode

     Minnesota Supreme Court hears the Swimpley backyard pool case  When does a residential swimming pool become a public pool?  Operational challenges for pool service professionals  The future of pool-sharing platforms  Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool investigation update  Why the pool was drained after Independence Day  Separating documented facts from online speculation  Understanding coating systems and polyurea applications  Adhesive vs. cohesive vs. substrate failures  ASTM adhesion and moisture testing standards  Why recoat windows matter  Surface preparation and concrete moisture considerations  Green water, algae, and what it does—and doesn't—prove  Why investigations begin by eliminating theories, not proving them  Lessons the entire pool industry can learn from a high-profile failure 

Key Takeaway

Good investigations don't begin with conclusions. They begin with evidence.

Whether it's a backyard pool operating as a business or one of America's most recognizable reflecting pools, the same principles apply: collect the facts, test the evidence, challenge assumptions, and let the data tell the story.

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