A war that was expected to be fast and contained is turning into something far more dangerous.
In this conversation, Terry Moran sits down with political scientist Ian Bremmer to break down the escalating conflict between the United States, Israel, and Iran. They examine how the war began, why it’s expanding, and what it could mean for the global economy, U.S. leadership, and the future of world order.
From failed assumptions about regime change to rising risks in the Persian Gulf, this discussion explores why there may be no clear off-ramp — and why the consequences could extend far beyond the region.
Topics include U.S. foreign policy, Iran’s strategy, global energy markets, China’s role, and the broader shift toward a “G-Zero” world without clear global leadership.
00:00 The war no one expected to escalate
01:20 How the conflict began
03:20 Why this war is bigger than before
06:20 Who is responsible for the escalation
10:25 Miscalculations about Iran
13:30 Why there’s no clear off-ramp
17:45 The risk of global escalation
20:00 Ground war scenarios explained
23:00 Impact on the global economy
26:30 What this means for U.S. leadership
30:20 The rise of a “G-Zero” world
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