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Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today, Isaac and AC welcome Gary P. Caton, the "Hermetic Astrologer" to discuss embodied astrology—going outside to directly observe and relate with the planets. Caton recounts his father teaching him to plant by the Moon, a 1993 dream tied to a Sun–Venus conjunction, and his experience with Project Hindsight translations that renewed interest in sky-based practice. He describes conversations and synchronicities with Venus and plants, argues astrologers have an ethical imperative to know the sky firsthand, and explains practical entry points like tracking Venus’s seven Moon conjunctions and working with new/full moons for intentions. The conversation also explores ethics, seasonality, civilization cycles, and “seed people.”
03:15 Meet Gary Caton
03:36 Origins in Astrology
05:32 Venus Dream Awakening
08:57 Planets and Plants Talk
11:45 Why "Embodied Astrology"?
13:59 Civilization and Planets
18:12 Hermes Myth and Charts
23:22 Start Embodied Astrology
26:25 Venus Cycle Dates
29:17 Moon Cycles and Seeds
31:01 Dark Moon and Ethics
34:16 Waning Moon Decrease
36:08 Disseminating Phase Seeds
37:15 Rudhyar Autumn Metaphor
39:07 Science and Hermeticism
40:38 Becoming Seed People
44:58 The Elements, Love and Strife
47:22 Ape Hierarchies Embodiment
51:38 Sunrise Ritual Nature Healing
55:37 Quiet Desert Homecoming
57:31 Where to Find Gary
59:47 Biodynamic Planting Calendar
01:02:33 Wrap Up and Thanks