***Trigger Warning*** Katie has some updates in regards to Pizzagate. Maybe it was real the whole time..?
Nathan says he's becoming obsessed with Megan Markle. That's going to be a future episode, for sure.
And our main topic: Nathan got obsessed with the rise and fall of Ice Spice. It's a dramatic arc, and she seems to be nowhere now.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
00:52 Deep Dive into Pizzagate and Epstein Emails
19:45 Meghan Markle
30:45 Ice Spice Introduction
48:06 Drake's Influence and Industry Connections
50:41 Mainstream Success and Collaborations
01:11:40 Controversies and Downfall
LINKS:
Ice spice name origin
Daughter of early 2000’s UG rapper Joseph Gaston
Bronx drill rapper: drill rap google definition
- B-Lovee My EverythingKay Flock PSA
Met prod RiotUSA in college (sophomore, he graduated, she dropped out, they started making music together
- Dad is DJ Enuff from Hot 97, NYC hip hop radio station, where he started in 1999, and prior to that he was a road DJ for Biggie Smalls and also worked in A&R at Def Jam Records from 1999-2001
Ice began releasing music on SoundCloud in 2021
THE RIZE!
Erica Banks’ Bussit challenge 2021
Billboard explainer
Ice Spice viral version
Ice talking about virality of Bussit challenge
Late 2022 - Munch (debut single)
- https://youtu.be/yF-NC3eRsqc?si=2XTnfZoVmFJtVAUN
Munch goes viral, and of course who is sliding into her DM’s almost immediately after it drops?
Drake:
DM’s:
https://fmhiphop.com/fmspotlight-ice-spice-munch-feelin-u-watch/amp/
Ice discusses
Drake plays Munch on his Sirius XM radio show Sound 42 which makes it go from viral to mega viral, and with his sign-on in late 2022 she lands a deal with Capitol Records and just shoots into the stratosphere
A LITANY OF MAINSTREAM SUCCESSES:
- Jan 2023 releases debut EP Like..?Feb 2023 features on remix of Pink Pantheress’ Boy’s a Liar part 2 which peaks at #3 on BB Hip hop chartApril 2023 features on Remix of Princess Diana with Nicki Minaj, goes to #4 BB hip hop chartsMay 26 2023 features on remix of Taylor Swift’s Karma a bonus track on the special edition of Midnights, peaks at #2 on the Hot 100Matt Healy had this to say about Ice Spice: video with transcriptJune 2023, releases Barbie World, again with Nicki Minaj, #7 on Hot 100
So she’s featuring a LOT and releasing EP’s and singles and stuff, but by now everybody is anticipating an album
She releases Think You the Shit (Fart) which is a dis track against another female rapper Latto with whom she’d been beefing since 2022, and it’s also a tease for her upcoming album project, Y2K, so named because Ice’s bday is Jan 1, 2000
https://youtu.be/Ou7c8Sg9YVg?si=xwi83l7pVQjLm9nf
This track did not bode well for her upcoming album project. In July 2024, she releases Y2K to “mixed reviews”, meaning mainstream publications found nice things to say while indie reviewers were like, this is NOT GOOD
Mychael Fantano review
BACKLASH AND FALLLLLL…
poop bars compilation
Even before the release of Y2K the mask, shall we say, starts slipping:
May 2024 Baby Storme, childhood friend of Ice and also a hip hop artist of some kind, releases texts btw her and Ice:
July 2024 she fakes a relationship with UK drill rapper Central Cee, but they fail to tell his GF Madeleine Argy
CLEOTRAPA
August 2024 Cleo opens for Ice on the US leg of the Y2K tour
April 27 2024 Baby storme tweetstorms about Ice
Cleo story (chapters)
Ice reaction
Zach Campbell - colorism (5:26)
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