Jules & Effin Older have never been especially interested in living just one life. Together, they've been writers, travelers, broadcasters and collaborators – but each also followed some wonderfully unexpected paths of their own. Effin became a television host in New Zealand, including co-hosting The Renovators, while Jules taught medical students, hosted a rock-and-roll radio show and even played a television villain.
They've written books, traveled the world, moved between the United States and New Zealand, raised a family and continued finding new things to do together.
In this Old People Rock conversation, Jules and Effin talk about the adventures, choices and surprises that have made their lives anything but predictable.
And yes, there is a book called Death by Tartar Sauce.