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A bold claim walked into our studio and asked to be heard: a guest who identifies as “Son of Man,” asserting the authority to interpret scripture and to judge. We welcomed the story before the stakes. He takes us from Mississippi to Watts, from Church of God in Christ routines to a nineteenth birthday in Vietnam, and from door-to-door sales to Muhammad’s Temple in Los Angeles. That journey sets the stage for a deeper conflict—what counts as proof when someone claims spiritual office?
We press on the core question: if you are who you say you are, can you show and prove it within the Nation of Islam’s own framework—Supreme Wisdom, Message to the Black Man, Our Saviour Has Arrived? He answers with Bible and Qur’an, arguing that the covenant of scripture is the ultimate verification, and that Elijah Muhammad’s mission was to awaken the one who would interpret. We challenge that approach, asking for citations from the Messenger’s teachings themselves. The gap between his standard of evidence (cross-scriptural coherence) and ours (lineage and lesson-specific proof) becomes the heartbeat of the episode.
What follows is candid and tense. Attempts to play archival audio stumble on technical issues. Definitions multiply; patience thins. He maintains that the “best knower” is singular—the head that orders the body—and that authority flows from mastery of revelation across texts. We counter that if a claim is anchored in NOI lineage, it should be demonstrated through NOI lessons. No easy resolution arrives. Instead, you’ll hear a live stress test of religious authority, identity, and verification that cuts to the center of Black religious thought, Islamic studies, and the politics of proof. Listen closely, decide for yourself, and tell us: whose standard makes sense to you?
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