How to Actually Use AI to Grow Your Business | Steve Chou AKA My Wife Quit Her Job
29 September 2025

How to Actually Use AI to Grow Your Business | Steve Chou AKA My Wife Quit Her Job

Lunch With Norm - The eCommerce & Amazon FBA Podcast

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AI is moving fast and if you're not keeping up, you’re falling behind. In this episode of Lunch With Norm, Norm Farrar sits down with Steve Chou to unpack how sellers can actually implement AI in 2025 to drive revenue, boost conversions, and save time across Amazon and DTC.


✅ You'll learn how to:


- Use AI to improve onsite search and 4x search-driven revenue


- Build AI-powered upsells and cross-sells like Amazon


- Create a RAG database to reduce hallucinations in customer service


- Find and segment your highest-LTV customers using smart AI signals


- Leverage tools like Gemini, Gamma, Base44, Lovable, Fly.io, 11Labs, and NotebookLM


- Turn AI into a creative team: from email to content to chatbot to product research


Plus:


- How Steve built a fully automated cigar rating app in 2 days


- What Shopify store owners should stop ignoring right now


- Why “no-code” tools may be holding you back


- Pro prompt tips to get better output from ChatGPT and Claude


- What AI creators need to watch out for (hint: lawsuits, ADA compliance, hallucinations)


 


This episode isn’t about the theory of AI, it’s a full breakdown of how to tactically implement AI systems today to make your brand smarter and more scalable.


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00:00 AI Changing Everything


04:15 Gemini Workflow Demo


07:51 Cigar App in 2 Days


11:07 AI Search Power


14:01 Fixing Search Results


17:29 AI for Cross-Selling


20:37 Virtual Bundle Tricks


23:39 Find Your Top Buyers


27:10 AOL Account Surprise


33:37 Prompting Like a Pro


36:56 Scroll-Stopping Thumbnails


40:09 Qualify Leads Fast


43:16 ADA Lawsuit Warning


46:35 What Is NotebookLM?


50:37 SEO Press Release Tip


54:25 How to Contact Steve