Britt and Chris have a great conversation about the journeys that Penny 40 and Penny 23 go on in The Magicians. They discuss the armor he uses to hide his empathy, his non-hero-complex heroics, his role in the Library, and his upbringing and educational disruptions. They also explore Penny's relationship with Kady Orloff-Diaz, characters he would relate to in other series, and important lessons he has to teach.
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