Ep. 425 - Beyond Denominations: Worship, Story, and the Search for the True Church, with Neil DeGraide

In this episode of Counterflow, I'm joined by Neil DeGraide, musician, songwriter, and founding member of Dirt Poor Robins.

Neil spent years in the Evangelical world leading worship and creating Christian music before beginning a journey that ultimately led him to the Orthodox Church. We talk about what changed, the assumptions he had to unlearn, and why he came to believe the search for the true Church is about much more than denominations.

We also dive into Christianities, the upcoming documentary Neil is helping produce alongside Fr. Peter Heers and John Heers. The film explores the biggest questions in Christianity by interviewing voices from across the Christian world while inviting viewers to seriously consider the claims of the ancient Church.

Along the way we discuss worship, storytelling, imagination, culture, filmmaking, and why the stories we live inside shape us far more than we often realize.

We Discuss:

* Neil's journey from Evangelicalism to Orthodoxy
* Leading worship—and why his understanding of worship completely changed
* Dirt Poor Robins and storytelling through music
* The upcoming documentary Christianities
* Why there are so many expressions of Christianity today
* The search for the historic Church
* Story, imagination, and the Christian life
* Recovering a richer vision of worship
* The role of artists in rebuilding Christian culture
* Why beauty, truth, and story belong together
* Hope for the future of Christianity

Learn More:

Dirt Poor Robins

Dirt Poor Robins on YouTube

Christianities Documentary

Sponsors:

Ludwell Orthodox Fellowship Conference, Sept 12th 2026

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