Meet the Liberal MP Who Went Against Carney (and Who Might Take Out Doug Ford)
24 June 2025

Meet the Liberal MP Who Went Against Carney (and Who Might Take Out Doug Ford)

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Mark Carney promised one Canadian economy. Now, his signature bill is one step closer to law as Bill C-5 rocketed through parliament with some amendments. The changes haven't quelled concerns from Liberal MP Nate Erskine-Smith, who broke ranks in the final vote. Host Noor sits down with MP Erskine-Smith to talk about why he voted no, and what he really thinks of Carney’s CEO-style politics.  


And, you’ll hear concerns from the Assembly of First Nations National Chief Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak about the process and lack of consultation. Plus some regulatory mythbusting by BC professors, Jess Dempsey, and Rosemary Collard.


Host: Noor Azrieh

Credits: Aviva Lessard (Senior Producer), Sam Konnert (Producer), Noor Azrieh (Host/Producer), Caleb Thompson (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Max Collins (Director of Audio) Jesse Brown (Editor), Tony Wang (Artwork)


Guests: Nate Erskine-Smith, Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak, Jess Dempsey, Rosemary Collard


Background reading:

    Liberals' major projects bill passes House of Commons with Conservative support – CBC NewsBill C-5 passes the House of Commons vote after accelerated process – Canada’s National ObserverAs Parliament rushes to support Bill C-5, Indigenous groups prepare for legal fight – The LogicA tale of two Bill 5s The Extinction ParadoxDoes regulation delay mines? A timeline and economic benefit audit of British Columbia mines


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