Why We Get Bored | Erin Westgate
19 January 2026

Why We Get Bored | Erin Westgate

Behavioral Grooves Podcast

About

Boredom feels unpleasant, but that may be the point. Psychologist Dr. Erin Westgate joins us to explain why boredom is a signal rather than a flaw, how meaning and attention shape it, and what it can teach us about work, burnout, and living a psychologically rich life.


Topics

[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Erin Westgate


[8:05] Do we think for pleasure?


[13:11] Why men would rather shock themselves than be bored


[15:50] The MAC model


[25:23] Is boredom useful?


[29:07] Enjoyable vs. interesting experiences


[31:51] Can a boring life still be a good life?


[39:58] Boredom and burnout at work 


[49:39] Is boredom good or bad?


[52:38] Designing better environments for bored people


[58:31] Desert island music


[1:02:17] Grooving Session: Boredom and meaning in life


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