03 June 2026
387: Can Psychedelics Heal Trauma? What The Research Shows | Keith Kurlander, MA, + Will Van Derveer, MD
Be Well by Kelly Leveque
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What if some of the most promising tools for treating depression, PTSD, and trauma have been misunderstood for decades?
In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Keith Kurlander and Dr. Will Van Derveer, co-founders of the Integrative Psychiatry Institute and authors of Psychedelic Therapy, to unpack the science, risks, and potential of psychedelic-assisted therapy. We discuss MDMA, psilocybin, ketamine, trauma, healing, and why these treatments are gaining so much attention in modern mental healthcare.
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Topics Discussed:
→ What is psychedelic-assisted therapy?
→ Can MDMA help treat PTSD?
→ How does ketamine therapy work?
→ Is psilocybin effective for depression?
→ What are the risks of psychedelics?
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Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:04:25 - From Traditional Psychiatry To Psychedelic Medicine
→ 00:06:20 - Root Causes Of Mental Health Conditions
→ 00:07:20 - MDMA Therapy For PTSD
→ 00:10:20 - Keith's Personal Psilocybin Experience
→ 00:15:40 - Why Psychedelic Experiences Can Feel Scary
→ 00:19:00 - Kelly's Personal Trauma Healing Story
→ 00:24:00 - MDMA, Ketamine & Psilocybin Explained
→ 00:25:40 - Ketamine Therapy For Depression
→ 00:27:00 - Why MDMA Works For Trauma
→ 00:31:40 - Lifestyle, Nutrition & Mental Health
→ 00:34:30 - Who Is A Good Candidate For Psychedelic Therapy?
→ 00:39:30 - What Trauma Actually Is
→ 00:42:10 - How Psychedelics Help Process Trauma
→ 00:47:50 - The Latest Psychedelic Research
→ 00:49:50 - Ibogaine, Addiction & Brain Injury Recovery
→ 00:51:10 - Mystical Experiences & Healing
→ 00:55:20 - Psychedelics For Personal Growth
→ 01:00:30 - Hallucinations, Memory & Reality
→ 01:04:40 - Risks, Integration & Challenging Experiences
→ 01:09:20 - Finding A Qualified Psychedelic Therapist
→ 01:12:30 - Psychedelics vs Antidepressants
→ 01:14:50 - Why DIY Psychedelics Can Be Dangerous
→ 01:18:30 - Final Thoughts
Further Listening:
→ Why Achievement Never Feels Like Enough | Bill Burnett + Dave Evans
Check Out:
→ Keith Kurlander | https://www.instagram.com/keithkurlander.ma/
→ Will Van Derveer | https://www.instagram.com/will.vanderveer.md/
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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Keith Kurlander and Dr. Will Van Derveer, co-founders of the Integrative Psychiatry Institute and authors of Psychedelic Therapy, to unpack the science, risks, and potential of psychedelic-assisted therapy. We discuss MDMA, psilocybin, ketamine, trauma, healing, and why these treatments are gaining so much attention in modern mental healthcare.
→ Leave Us A Voice Message!
Topics Discussed:
→ What is psychedelic-assisted therapy?
→ Can MDMA help treat PTSD?
→ How does ketamine therapy work?
→ Is psilocybin effective for depression?
→ What are the risks of psychedelics?
Sponsored By:
→ Timeline | Timeline’s clinically proven formula is now more accessible. Mitopure starts at $99, and listeners can get 20% off at: https://timeline.com/KELLY
→ Be Well By Kelly Protein Powder & Essentials | Get $10 off your order with PODCAST10 at https://bewellbykelly.com.
→ Fatty 15 | Fatty15 is on a mission to replenish your C15 levels and restore your long-term health. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to https://fatty15.com/KELLY15 and using code KELLY15 at checkout.
Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:04:25 - From Traditional Psychiatry To Psychedelic Medicine
→ 00:06:20 - Root Causes Of Mental Health Conditions
→ 00:07:20 - MDMA Therapy For PTSD
→ 00:10:20 - Keith's Personal Psilocybin Experience
→ 00:15:40 - Why Psychedelic Experiences Can Feel Scary
→ 00:19:00 - Kelly's Personal Trauma Healing Story
→ 00:24:00 - MDMA, Ketamine & Psilocybin Explained
→ 00:25:40 - Ketamine Therapy For Depression
→ 00:27:00 - Why MDMA Works For Trauma
→ 00:31:40 - Lifestyle, Nutrition & Mental Health
→ 00:34:30 - Who Is A Good Candidate For Psychedelic Therapy?
→ 00:39:30 - What Trauma Actually Is
→ 00:42:10 - How Psychedelics Help Process Trauma
→ 00:47:50 - The Latest Psychedelic Research
→ 00:49:50 - Ibogaine, Addiction & Brain Injury Recovery
→ 00:51:10 - Mystical Experiences & Healing
→ 00:55:20 - Psychedelics For Personal Growth
→ 01:00:30 - Hallucinations, Memory & Reality
→ 01:04:40 - Risks, Integration & Challenging Experiences
→ 01:09:20 - Finding A Qualified Psychedelic Therapist
→ 01:12:30 - Psychedelics vs Antidepressants
→ 01:14:50 - Why DIY Psychedelics Can Be Dangerous
→ 01:18:30 - Final Thoughts
Further Listening:
→ Why Achievement Never Feels Like Enough | Bill Burnett + Dave Evans
Check Out:
→ Keith Kurlander | https://www.instagram.com/keithkurlander.ma/
→ Will Van Derveer | https://www.instagram.com/will.vanderveer.md/
Check Out Kelly:
→ Instagram
→ Youtube