10 September 2026
Talking Ops with Don Irace - Operations On The MKT with David Heyde
Around The Layout - A Model Railroad Podcast
About
What does it take to design a model railroad layout that's both true to its prototype and a joy to operate with friends? In this episode, Ray Arnott and co-host Don Irace are joined by David Heyde for an in-depth conversation about building and evolving a medium-sized Missouri- Kansas-Texas layout in a one bay garage —right down to the details that bring Central Texas railroading to life in the spring of 1987. The discussion covers everything from the lessons learned in yard placement, the importance of aisle space, and balancing flawless operations with fun, to the value of feedback from operators and the ever-present urge to make layout changes as experience grows. Listeners will gain insight into both the joys and challenges of developing an operations-focused railroad and learn why sometimes, ripping things out for improvement is the best path forward.
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Learn more about this episode on our website:
aroundthelayout.com/254
This episode of Around The Layout is Powered By Rapido Trains:
https://rapidotrains.com/
Thank you to our episode sponsor, Spring Creek Model Trains:
https://www.springcreekmodeltrains.com/
Thank you to our episode sponsor, NarrowThrottle by Scott Thornton:
https://narrowthrottle.square.site/
Visit our website at aroundthelayout.com
Become a member of our Operating Crew for chances to win and much more!
aroundthelayout.com/crew
Around The Layout Podcast is a production of Thirty Five Productions LLC
©2026 Thirty Five Productions LLC. All rights reserved.
The views and opinions expressed by hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Thirty Five Productions LLC or our sponsors.
Use of any trademarks or trade names is for identification purposes only and does not imply endorsement.
No portion of this podcast may be reproduced, distributed, or transmitted in any form or by any means without the prior written permission of Thirty Five Productions LLC, except for brief quotations used for purposes of review, commentary, or promotion.