Join Daniel Lucas and poet Matt Thomas on Abstract Essay to explore poetry, software engineering, farming, curiosity, and the meaning found in daily life.

What connects writing a poem, building software, and caring for the land? On Abstract Essay, host Daniel Lucaswelcomes Matt Thomas, a poet, engineer, and smallholder farmer whose work brings these worlds into conversation.

Together, they explore the idea of poetry as technology, the value of a liberal arts education in software engineering, and how curiosity can shape a career across disciplines. The conversation also considers Thomas's poetry collections, Disappearing by the Math and Cicada, Dog & Song, opening up questions about home, physical labor, relationships, and our place in the natural world.

From land stewardship in the Shenandoah Valley to the practice of paying closer attention, this episode invites listeners to consider how everyday experiences become sources of insight—and how seemingly different pursuits can enrich one another.

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Poet, engineer, and farmer Matt Thomas joins Daniel Lucas to explore poetry as technology, the value of curiosity, and the connections between land, language, and everyday life.

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