the legendary Nate Schutta, teacher, friend, and.. harbinger of doom!

Hi Spring fans, and happy holidays! I'm delighted to be joined again on this episode by my friend and fellow harbinger of doom (in the best possible way), Nate Schutta — co-author of the wonderful book _Foundations of Software Engineering_!

* get the book here https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/fundamentals-of-software/9781098143220/