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Treat It as an Experiment
30 October 2026

Treat It as an Experiment

40% Better - Engineering Leadership

About
"You won’t automate yourself out of a job. You’ll automate yourself into a better one."

Bill talks with Jackie Teran, VP of Engineering at Forerunner, whose path ran from class president to a layoff, the Peace Corps, a coding bootcamp and a rise from IC to senior manager at Coinbase.

They dig into aligning teams with relentless retros, breaking deadlocks by treating ideas as experiments, inviting people to lead, letting go of your old job to grow, and rethinking hiring now that AI writes so much of the code.

Plus: the candy-based campaign slogan that started it all.

Connect with Jackie: https://withforerunner.com
Connect with Bill: https://40pb.com