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This has been one of the most challenging episodes we’ve ever attempted to release.
The first recording? Unusable.
The second? Nearly impossible to download and convert.
Spiritually, everything has tried to stop this message from getting out—which tells me one thing: you need to hear this.
I (Daniel) finally sat down with a pastor I’ve known about for over 19 years but somehow never met. When Clint and I finally crossed paths, we connected fast—and about five minutes into his story, I knew this wasn’t going to be a normal conversation.
Clint is not your average pastor. He’s pastored Bloods and Crips, cowboys, and suburban families. If you’re breathing, chances are Clint’s walked with someone like you. His stories are raw, hilarious, intense, and so real they can’t be polished or packaged.
As we talk, the conversation takes unexpected turns—faith, grit, calling, brokenness, and the kind of God-moments that don’t usually make it onto a church stage. No fluff. No churchy clichés. Just honest stories and powerful truths that hit when you’re not ready for it.
Clint is one of the most interesting humans you’ll ever hear from, and this episode is equal parts laughter, jaw-dropping moments, and that quiet realization of “wow… God really does show up like that.”
Buckle up. This one fought hard to be heard—and now it’s your turn to listen.
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